Regional Support: Taxes (UK)

CPRE
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Hi, 

I'm trying to set up a store for the charity I work at in the UK. We want to test print on demand merchandise. 

 

If the the customer and our store/charity are based in England, but some of the products are produced in Europe, will additional ta be required about the 20% VAT? 

 

Thanks 

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Victor
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Hi @CPRE,

Thanks for getting in touch. Am I right in thinking that even though your products are produced in the EU, you're only selling to customers in the UK? Or are you selling to European-based customers too? I believe if it's the former, and you're only shipping your items to British customers, you'll only be liable to charge the 20% VAT rate irrespective of where your goods are sourced from. Please also be aware that you're only required to register for VAT and charge it to your customers if your business meets the thresholds set by HMRC. 

Kind regards,

Victor | Shopify Social Care

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SafeHands36
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Hi Victor

Thank you for your email. We are a UK company selling exclusively in the UK, we are VAT registered, However, many of the items we sell are items which have medical prescriptions so we do not need to apply VAT to these items, but we do need to apply VAT to the delivery charge.

Many thanks

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Victor
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Hi @SafeHands36,

Okay, I see. I checked in with a colleague of mine in our taxes team, and they did urge you to confirm that you still need to charge shipping taxes based on non-taxable items, as this generally is not required and the Shopify tax system works on this basis. However, they did say that if you are confident you do need to charge shipping taxes when non-taxable items are in the cart, there is a workaround you can try. If you set the items as taxable, but then apply a tax override on the items and set the tax rate for those products to 0%, the system will then see the items as taxable and charge shipping taxes as a result, but the rate of tax on those products will be 0% as per the override.

Kind regards,

Victor | Shopify Social Care

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Vintage84
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Hi, my website sell used clothing (630900), we sell way less than 85000 Pounds per year in UK, we have to charge the sale tax when we sell something in UK ?

Thanks.

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RobS
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@SafeHands36 In general the VAT rate applied to shipping is based on the VAT rate on the goods supplied. So goods charged at 20% VAT will have 20% shipping, zero-rated goods have 0% VAT on shipping. This is how our store handles it and this is what shopify does by default (it didnt for a long time though!).

There are some exceptions around this I believe (supplying goods for customer approval?). Have you checked out the HMRC guidance?

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/vat-on-postage-delivery-and-direct-marketing-notice-70024#delivered-good...

Disclaimer - I am not an accountant or tax specialist so if it is not clear from the guidance you should check with your accountant for a definitive answer based on exactly how you are trading

 

 

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SafeHands36
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This work round is great thanks, and it works. 

However, I have double checked on the rules and your colleague is right.  If the item(s) in the cart is tax exempt the delivery charge becomes tax exempt too.   As soon as a Taxable product is added, tax needs to get added to the delivery charge.   Shopify does this, so no work around required!   Thanks for all your help with this.  Problem solved!

 

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SafeHands36
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Thank you  - I did double checked on the rules and you're correct.

 

Victor
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Hi @SafeHands36,

I'm glad to hear that the workaround worked, even if it isn't needed! I know taxes can be a headache to figure out, but it sounds like you were able to verify that the tax system works as is in this instance. Please get back in touch if you have any further queries.

Kind regards,

Victor | Shopify Social Care

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Victor
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Hi @Vintage84,

Thanks for reaching out. As per the UK government's website, merchants in the UK are required to register for VAT when they meet certain sales thresholds:

You must register for VAT if:

  • you expect your VAT taxable turnover to be more than £85,000 in the next 30-day period
  • your business had a VAT taxable turnover of more than £85,000 over the last 12 months

You might also need to register in some other cases, depending on the kinds of goods or services you sell and where you sell them.

I would recommend referring to HMRC's guidance on VAT registration, and to consult a tax professional if you are unsure of your obligations.

Kind regards,

Victor | Shopify Social Care

 

 

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