Bakery challenges - Local delivery/scheduling/capacity - Anyone found a solution?

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Tourist
11 0 5

Hi there.

We are a new doughnut delivery service. We provide freshly made doughnuts to customers in the local area.

Our circumstances:

  1. Our doughnuts require being prepared overnight.
  2. We can only make a maximum number of doughnuts per day (108)
  3. However, if we receive a low number of orders, we will make less doughnuts (batches are in 36 so will be a multiple of that, hence 108).
  4. It is very likely that we will have unallocated doughnuts from the batch.
  5. We can only deliver to local areas, using a combination of our own bikes as well as couriers. Delivery occurs on set days between set times.

Therefore, we are trying to see if Shopify can enable us to:

  1. Enable a limit PER DELIVERY DATE on number of units
  2. Prompt customers to place an order at least one day before, with a cut off time of 10pm (so we know how many doughnuts to make).
  3. Restrict customers to local locations.
  4. Get customers to select delivery date and time.
  5. Still allow for the sale of the leftover units on the day.
  6. Output the orders per delivery date into a summary for a baking schedule.
  7. Keep the delivery locations and routes neatly organised.

Thinking out loud, one solution is that if an inventory limit per delivery date were established, then the shop could simply remain selling units even on the day of baking and we can still receive those orders (maybe just with wording to heavily suggest prebooking ahead of schedule to avoid disappointment). But then how do we know whether one day is going to be a full batch or a half batch? Maybe at 10pm the inventory is adjusted to the minimum amount. 

Our challenge is not unique, and I can see multiple questions from others hear searching for answers.

We are currently looking at Zapiet's Store Pickup + Delivery app, as well as Limitsify. But we can only get halfway there and it still feels like we have no control over the number of orders that are happening.

So, turning to the community, from Shopify users to app developers... does anyone have a tried and tested solutions for any and all of the above?

Many thanks.

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Shopify Partner
182 2 27

Hi @Doughnaughty ,

I don't have a solution for you I'm afraid. But, I listened to a podcast with a founder doing a very similar thing to you (but with cookies), i.e. hyper local, has to be warm from the oven upon delivery.

He goes through their tech stack, but it's all heavily custom. Anyway, might be handy: https://www.indiehackers.com/podcast/166-sam-eaton-of-crave-cookie

Cheers,

Oli

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Founder @ www.preproduct.io

Test and make sales for future products

 

 

 

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Tourist
11 0 5

Thanks for this, I will check it out!

For sure, what we and others are looking for is not overly complicated to explain or manage as a human being (at least on a small scale).

So, I was very sure it could be coded, and sure enough looks like for cookies someone has a custom solution.

It would just be great to hear about a more ready made solution/app. There will be people queuing up to pay for this, I know it.

 

 

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Excursionist
14 1 3

I think you are going need custom development to build your custom ruleset.  I don't think you're going to find a point and click solution to your problem.

Shopify has an active developer community and does a good job of vetting developers so you don't have to waste your time and money with point-and-click "web agencies".

Please consider hiring a custom developer through this community.

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Excursionist
14 1 3

Now, if you want to partner with a developer to build a ready-made app, I (and other developers) are all ears.  If you're convinced of the marketability of such an app, hire a developer to build it and then sell it in the app marketplace (pro-tip, it will be more complicated and time consuming than you think).

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Shopify Partner
55 2 20

Hey @Doughnaughty ,

Andy here from Zapiet!

You have a really interesting use case and one we have actually come across fairly frequently. We currently have over 500 bakeries actively using Store Pickup + Delivery and have rapidly been working on a solution to limit the number of items available per day/location. It's still a fair while off from release and would only cover part of your requirements, as it does not go so far as switching the available inventory automatically at specific times of day.

Although as part of this project we are building a number of API's that a developer could easily use to solve that last requirement. 

If you would like to work together on this and be our first pilot store let me know  

Thanks,

Andy 

p.s. Just to set expectations this is not something we can enable immediately. It is very much a work in progress.

Founder - Zapiet - Store Pickup + Delivery (apps.shopify.com/click-and-collect)
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Tourist
11 0 5

Thanks Jacob, I fully believe that there is a solid user base for this that will increase as time grows.

It's an extremely accessible business for people to get into (baking in general I mean), but the moment you move beyond a friend texting you asking for an order you realise the baking part itself is the 'easy' bit, its just streamlining the sales process is so cumbersome as you scale. Whereas it seems a lot of other types of businesses have ready made solutions someone can put together themselves to just get up and go, the sticking point really is the idea of a limited quanity per day (that you really want to sell, ie no holder stock) and how you handle that.

After peeking into the backed of Shopify and Liquid, I fully appreciate how its not going to be trivial to code, but if I can verbally explain the logic outloud then I know it can be done  

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Excursionist
14 1 3

@Andrew_Cargill  @Doughnaughty 

I would be happy to fill that last-mile role.  I've looked at Zapiet to save some dev time on another project - didn't use it, but it's worth consideration.

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Tourist
11 0 5

Hey @Doughnaughty ,

Andy here from Zapiet!

You have a really interesting use case and one we have actually come across fairly frequently. We currently have over 500 bakeries actively using Store Pickup + Delivery and have rapidly been working on a solution to limit the number of items available per day/location. It's still a fair while off from release and would only cover part of your requirements, as it does not go so far as switching the available inventory automatically at specific times of day.

Although as part of this project we are building a number of API's that a developer could easily use to solve that last requirement. 

If you would like to work together on this and be our first pilot store let me know  

Thanks,

Andy 

p.s. Just to set expectations this is not something we can enable immediately. It is very much a work in progress.

Hi @Andrew_Cargill , thanks for getting in touch. (You actually just got back to me on the trial extension page, so cheers again for that).

Glad to see that this is something that has been flagged by Zapiet. I actually saw that your 'Limit by Shipping Day' is a work in progress on your help pages, which initally got me very excited until saw it was Coming Soon.

Appreciate that it is not ready for release, but would absolutely love to be a part of the development of this. And to set expectations, from our end we are an extremely small business just getting started, but I would like to think we work well together on this to make sure you all are building in the right functionality.

I have booked in a meeting with your team as you directed on the other thread for Monday, would that be the best place to discuss this further?

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Shopify Partner
55 2 20

No problem at all, my pleasure  

Sure, we have both pickup and shipping limits already in-development. The first iterations of the release will simply be to cap the number of pickups or shipments per day. But we have built out the features with extensibility in mind, meaning once we release v1.0 it won't take us much longer to achieve what you require. 

Great news that you've got a call scheduled! They are proving to be super-helpful all round. Feel free to explain your requirements in full to my team member and they will document everything for our engineers. 

Looking forward to getting this solved for you! 

Founder - Zapiet - Store Pickup + Delivery (apps.shopify.com/click-and-collect)
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