Ads and sales

Hello All,

Lynnett W lynnett@hotmail.co.uk

5:51 PM (0 minutes ago)

I would like to express my sincere gratitude for all the advice I have received in the past . Your guidance has been genuine and helpful, especially regarding setting up venushaven.com
I have done my best to implement all the advice given, and I now feel ready to start advertising. I am here once again to seek guidance on advertising and increasing sales.
I would appreciate it if you could review my shop and offer some advice before I consider giving up. I would be grateful for your honest feedback and recommendations. I need that little glimmer of hope. Thanks again and again.

Look at the price difference… Before I do even one product, I study the market and the prices and make sure I am providing the best to the customer, if not in price than in something else. Also to know exactly what I’m up against. Not sure if you have done that or not.

Sometimes you have to change tactics. In this case, you are planning to spend money advertising which could seriously get costly. Dropshipping is not what everyone says it is. Hope you don’t get burned. Good luck

Thank you i appreciate

Hi @lynnebaky

Could you please edit our first post and remove your email?

Next, I think you did not implement all advise :slight_smile: Though there is some noticeable work done on the store that is visible.

Just a few things:

  • Your menu is too big; two rows is not recommended.
  • Some AI images are still there, and they still have ChatGPT in their names

    *Homepage images are not too useful, and on some screens it looks cut of.
  • Your about us page, first, it does not say anything about you, just some little text that could be AI generated so not connectiong with customers.
  • No full business details, address, phone

In general, dropshipping is hard, but YouTube “gurus” say it is easy, "just buy my course ". It is hard work, like any other store, but with the disadvantage of selling the same products as thousands of other stores. So besides products, you have to have more: some story, a lot of followers on social networks, local presence. Running adds will just burn money, you can learn from that, improve things and try again but it is hard. In about us page you have “Community Over Competition” well you should start from that, you have community that do not mind buying from you?

Also, I recommend to everyone to spend some time reading topics in community: Store Feedback and searching for “no sales” and “zero sales” becase datais there, issues are there and some tips and solutions. A lot of store owners had a similar experience; they started from something.

But also in the world of AI, you can learn a lot: “What elements(blocks/sections) my Shopify product page should have to convert better?” “Give me a few good examples”

So again, a lot of work but possible. Also it needs time, so be patient.

Good luck

@lynnebaky Your email is still in the first post, worth editing out before it gets scraped.

Nobody has answered what you actually asked, so let me try.

Yes you should advertise eventually. Not yet, and heres the arithmetic rather than just an opinion.

Cold traffic to a store nobody has heard of, with no reviews, converts somewhere around half a percent to one percent on a good day. So roughly one sale per one to two hundred visitors. At typical costs that means you are paying real money for those visitors, and on a dropship margin the sale doesnt cover it. Thats before the point Maximus3 made about your prices sitting above what the same product sells for elsewhere. Paid traffic doesnt fix that, it just pays to show more people the more expensive option.

Theres also a mechanical reason new stores burn money on ads that nobody mentions. Meta optimises using your pixel data. A brand new pixel with zero purchases has nothing to learn from, so the algorithm spends your budget exploring rather than targeting. You are paying for its education. Thats why the first few hundred spent on a new store so often produces nothing at all, and its not you doing something wrong.

So heres what I would do instead, and its the thing that gives you a real answer.

Sell one unit to one person, by hand, without ads. Facebook Marketplace, a local group, a car boot, friends of friends, anywhere. Just one. Because the question you actually need answered isnt how do I advertise, its does anybody want this at my price. Ads amplify an offer that works. They cannot create one.

If you can sell one by hand, you will learn exactly why that person bought, and that reason becomes your ad. If you genuinely cannot sell a single one to anybody, no budget was ever going to fix that, and you have saved yourself the money.

On the hope part, since you asked for it honestly. The work you have put into the store is not wasted, its just aimed at the wrong step. Almost everyone who succeeds at this got their first handful of sales manually and unglamorously before any advertising existed. Thats not a consolation prize, its the normal order of things. One sale this month, made by hand, tells you more than a thousand pounds of ads would.

Hi @lynnebaky

Most important changes before running ads

  1. Fix the homepage H1/heading hierarchy
  2. Add FAQ to both homepage and product page
  3. Add a strong Shop by Category section
  4. Strengthen the Best Sellers section
  5. Add/strengthen reviews and customer-generated content
  6. Add Size Guide + Shipping + Returns near the product CTA
  7. Improve product benefits instead of relying mainly on paragraphs
  8. Add stronger trust/value messaging
  9. Make sure every product has high-quality images and clear product-specific information
  10. Test the complete mobile buying journey before advertising

Best regards,
Devcoder :laptop:

MayraApps is right that the move is to sell one by hand before you pay for traffic, and the only thing I would add sits one step later, in what those visitors land on when you do start.

Your homepage says Home Is Where the Gains Are and Your Home Gym Starts Here, and the description Google shows is about resistance bands and training at home with no gym. The menu directly underneath has hiking gear, swimming gear, cycling and biking, safety tools and outdoor and hiking, and 43 of your 117 products are cycling, swimming, hiking or camping. So whichever side you end up advertising, a good chunk of the shop reads like it belongs to somebody else, and that blurs the reason to buy from you in particular, which is the same thing Maximus3 and MayraApps are both circling from the price side.

I would pick the side you want to be known for, say it plainly on the homepage and in the search listing, and let the rest live in the menu rather than in the promise. One thing worth knowing while you decide what to change though: your product titles, your search engine listings and your image alt text are already written properly, better than most stores that ask here. Whatever else you rework, that part does not need it.

Just my two cents on something nobody’s mentioned yet.

You’ve got a compare-at price on basically everything, so every item shows a strikethrough. I get why, it looks generous. It works against you once you start advertising though.

When a shopper sees the whole store on sale, the sale stops meaning anything, and a permanent discount tends to read as fake to people who shop online a lot. It also leaves you nothing to pull when you want to run an actual promotion. I’d take it off most things and save it for a real sale on a few products at a time.

The other thing I noticed is your product types and vendor name aren’t consistent. Some of your swim products are set as swimming gear, some as swimming accessories, some as swimming equipment, and your brand name is spelled a few different ways with different capitalization.

Shopify treats each of those as its own separate value, so your filters split one category into several, and a Google Shopping feed would do the same thing. Quick fix in the bulk editor, but worth doing before you pay for traffic.

I think that’s where your menu problem is coming from too. You’ve got a lot of collections for the size of the catalog and several of them do more or less the same job, which is why the nav needs two rows. Trimming those fixes the menu without redesigning anything.

Thanks so much. Well received.

I ran a crawl over 25 pages of venushaven.com — homepage, all 19 collection pages, the blog index, about page and a couple of products — and looked only at the technical/search layer, since the messaging side is already covered above.

What’s in good shape. robots.txt is correct and HTTP redirects to HTTPS cleanly. Product/Offer JSON-LD is on the product pages I sampled, so price and availability are exposed to Google. Alt text is present on 100% of images — genuinely rare, and it’s why the point above about your alt text being fine is right. hreflang is wired up correctly across your four extra locales (fr, de, es, ja), so the translated versions aren’t competing with the English ones as duplicates. No broken internal links in a 15-link sample. And every collection page has exactly one H1 — the theme isn’t duplicating headings, which is the usual mess on stores this size.

What I’d fix, most expensive first.

The homepage has no H1 at all. Every other storefront page in the crawl has one; / has zero. It’s your most-linked page and the one Google leans on hardest to decide what the brand is about, and right now the strongest on-page signal it carries is the title tag alone. In Online Store → Themes → Customize, the top section’s heading is probably rendering as a or a styled — the fix is one heading level in the section, not a redesign.

10 of 25 titles run past 60 characters, and it’s the suffix that survives the cut. /collections/running-gear is 67 characters (“Running Gear — Belts, Vests & Compression for Runners – Venus Haven”), /collections/safety-tools and /collections/cycling-biking are 65, /collections/wearable-tech 64, /collections/swimming-gear 61. Google truncates around 60, so “for Runners – Venus Haven” is what gets dropped or clipped while the brand name is already visible in the URL line above. Collection pages are what rank for category searches (“resistance band set”, “womens yoga set”) — these are the titles worth the ten minutes. Products → Collections → pick one → Edit website SEO → Page title: lead with the category term, drop the trailing brand where the line is tight.

/collections/mens-apparel has a broken title: “Men’s Clothing — Activewear, | Venus Haven”. The sentence is cut off mid-list — there’s a dangling comma right before the pipe. That renders exactly like that in the SERP and reads as an unfinished page.

/collections/all has no meta description and the title is “Products – Venus Haven”. That page tends to pick up long-tail impressions for people browsing the whole catalogue, and right now it tells Google nothing and gives a searcher nothing. Same for /authentication/login in the report, but that one is Shopify’s and not worth your time.

/pages/about-us has two H1s and 97 words. Two competing top-level headings on a page with under a hundred words of copy is the weakest page on the site by both measures. For a fitness brand this page does real work — it’s where a first-time buyer decides you’re a business and not a dropship front — and it’s also the natural home for the brand-name searches you’ll start getting.

26 collections against 117 products in your sitemap, and 6 collection pages have under 300 words (/collections/yoga-sets 213 words, /collections/safety-tools 246, /collections/running-gear 277, /collections/unisex-apparel 281, /collections/hydration 298). That’s roughly four products per collection on average. This is the same thing being described above as a menu/product mismatch, but from the search side: thin collection pages compete with each other for the same category terms and none of them accumulates enough signal to win. Merging the overlapping ones — /collections/outdoor-hiking and /collections/hiking-gear, /collections/sport-outdoor and the individual sport collections it duplicates — into fewer, fuller pages usually beats keeping every category the menu promises.

There’s more in the crawl (per-page numbers behind every item above) — happy to post the rest if it’s useful.

One last thing, and I’ll be upfront that it’s ours: the annoying part about a list like this is that none of it moves rankings on a schedule, and none of it moves them linearly. You ship five fixes over three weeks and then can’t tell which one did anything — or whether one of them quietly cost you. We built Topify (https://topify.app) for that gap: it joins Search Console data to Shopify sales, so a change shows up as its consequence on both sides, including the changes that turn out to be bad. Since you’re weighing whether to keep going at all, having the before/after attribution in place before you start changing things is what I’d set up first.